Podcast: Let's Get Visible with Carrie Bower

Michelle John talks CPA with Carrie Bower on 'Let's Get Visible' Podcast

PEGS' Founder Michelle was delighted to join Carrie Bower on her podcast recently to discuss the incredibly important and often hidden issue of child-to-parent abuse (CPA). As many of you know, raising awareness of CPA is at the heart of everything we do at PEGS, so it was a privilege to have the opportunity to share our insights with Carrie and her audience.

Child-to-parent abuse is an issue that continues to be widely misunderstood, yet it affects more families than people might realise. During the discussion, Michelle and Carrie explored the different ways CPA can present itself, including physical, verbal, financial, and emotional abuse, as well as coercive control. They also spoke about the immense stigma and isolation that parents experiencing CPA often feel, and why it’s so crucial that they know they are not alone.

One of the key points highlighted was that CPA can impact anyone, regardless of background, and there is no ‘typical’ family affected. Both organisations know how difficult it can be to acknowledge that abuse is happening, particularly when it’s coming from your own child – but it’s so important to seek support.

Carrie, who works tirelessly to raise awareness of domestic abuse in later life through her platform, Visible Later Lives, was incredibly open to discussing CPA and how it can intersect with wider domestic abuse issues. It was fantastic to speak with someone who shares our passion for ensuring that no one feels invisible or unheard when facing abuse.

If you missed the podcast, we highly recommend giving it a listen on the link below. The more we talk about CPA, the more we can break down the stigma and make sure parents and carers know there is support available.

Listen to the podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4pB6Q3uD021NAPJohF4CHs?si=-NNFqyZhQDm-QQ4Oh0F3Rw

A huge thank you to Carrie for having Michelle on her podcast – together, we can keep pushing for change.

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Founding Director, Michelle, has been awarded an MBE in the Kings Birthday Honours for Family Support and Advocacy.

By PEGS Admin • June 15, 2026

Child to Parent Abuse organisation founder awarded MBE The founder of a social enterprise which has supported thousands of parents impacted by abusive behaviours from their children has been awarded an MBE. Michelle John, originally from Pembrokeshire in Wales but now based in Shropshire, was among the names announced for the prestigious accolade in the King’s Birthday Honours List this year. In 2020, Michelle set up not-for-profit organisation PEGS with the aim of supporting parents and carers, training professionals, influencing local and national policy, and raising awareness of Child to Parent Abuse – which is thought to affect up to one in ten households in the UK. Since then, she has grown a team of experts who have trained police, social workers, teachers and many other professionals to better recognise the signs of CPA, support parents, and signpost to specialist organisations. In addition, Michelle set up a range of parent-focused initiatives including daily practitioner-led online sessions, a Facebook peer support group which now has 3,300 members, and one-to-one offerings for those at highest risk. PEGS launched a CPA Covenant for employers in partnership with the Department for Work and Pensions, only the fourth such covenant to be backed by the Government, and Michelle has advised everyone from the Home Office to Channel 4 and the BBC on CPA – the latter for storyline on Hollyoaks and EastEnders. Her work has seen CPA covered by journalists across television news programmes, national newspapers and magazine, and regional press and radio, and she’s received numerous awards both in the UK and internationally. Michelle, whose MBE was awarded for Family Support and Advocacy, said: “This honour is also shared with the parents who have trusted me along the way: they drive me, inspire me and I will always stand with them. “I feel proud, privileged and very grateful – and I’d like to thank everyone who has supported me and PEGS along the way. There is much more to come for PEGS, and we will continue to work every day for the parents and carers who have been or continue to be impacted by CPA. “There is so much to reflect on from the journey of the last six years, and there have been many highlights and challenges along the way. I am sure there will be many more in the future – although being told I’d received an MBE will always remain a truly incredible moment that I’ll remember forever!” For more information about us, visit www.pegsupport.co.uk or search for 'PEGS' on social media!